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-Hi, I'm Lauren.

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->> Hi, I'm Alvin.

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->> I'm an instructor at a university nearby and I've been noticing that when

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-my students write their essays, they have

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-very long, very wordy sentences and I would

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-like to develop some kind of tool that they can use to keep track of

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-this and maybe perfect their writing style.

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-Do you think that's something you could do?

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->> I think so. Let's start by helping me get acquainted with the students

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-in the class. So how many students do we have in this class typically?

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->> Usually about 45 per unit, but I can have up to six units a semester.

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->> 45 students, and six sections per

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-semester. That's a farily reasonable size. So,

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-do you know anything about what the students are using as far as computers go?

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->> I don't know what kind of computers they're using. And they

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-could be, I don't know, anywhere from having no tech experience to

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-being pretty proficient.

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->> Do you know anything about how

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-familiar the students are with computers in general?

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->> I'm sure we have some people on the low end that have

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-never done any type of programming, and

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-then some people who are pretty self-sufficient.

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->> Okay, and I guess my last question related to

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-the students is, what is the students actually submitting to you.

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->> They've been sending just raw text files via email to me.

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->> So from the sounds of things

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-we have a fairly broad, I guess base

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-of students to work with, both in technical proficiency

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-as well as their operating system environments potentially.

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-So I think what we'll probably do to start

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-off with is make a command line, Java

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-based tool. That the students can run and we'll

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-give them a fair amount of you know, documentation

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-on how to use the tool. And I expect

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-that there will be a lot of little error conditions that may happen

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-that we want to produce a reasonably friendly message were anything to go wrong.

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->> Yeah. That'd be great.

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->> So, a little bit more, I guess about

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-the actual essay itself, its submission, what constitutes a word?

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->> I really only care about the longer words, so, is there a

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-way that we can only count words that are maybe above three letters?

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->> I think

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-that's something we can do. And I think

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-that because you seem a little bit unsure

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-we might be able to have that be

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-a little bit more flexible than we otherwise would.

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->> Great.

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->> What does a sentence mean to you? Is it kind of flexible?

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->> I would say anything that ends in a period or

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-even a question mark. Maybe even an exclamation mark. or, something

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-even, maybe even with a comma or semi-colon. I really only

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-care about the sentences that aren't gramatically correct and are too long.

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->> I think we can probably make that a little bit more flexible too

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-so that way, you can kind of say we're going to, or you want to include them.

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->> Mm-hm.

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->> So maybe, sounds like you are little bit on the fence

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-about whether or not say, a comma should be considered a sentence.

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->> Mm.

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->> Entirely on its own or not. So we

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-can probably make that a little bit configurable as well.

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-And so, just to confirm the actual end result to

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-the student is the average number of words per sentence?

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->> Yeah, yeah that'd be fine.

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->> Okay, overall to start off with, looks like we have some

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-sort of customization of the word length that we want to look for.

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->> Mm-hm. Yeah.

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->> We have some kind of variability in

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-what we want to have as acceptable sentence structure.

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-So, periods, question marks, semicolons, things like that. And, the end result

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-to the student is if we're successful, they'll get the average number of

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-words per sentence. Otherwise we tell them something a little bit helpful to

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-kind of put them on the right track to use the tool correctly.

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->> Yeah that's the error codes right?

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->> Hopefully not error codes but something a little bit nicer.

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->> [LAUGH] Okay.

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->> So I think I have enough to

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-get started and produce something that's you know,

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-a reasonable I guess, rough draft. Of something

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-that you can use to help your class out.

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->> Great. Thank you.

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->> Thank you.