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+Hi, I'm Lauren.

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+>> Hi, I'm Alvin.

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+>> I'm an instructor at a university nearby and I've been noticing that when

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+my students write their essays, they have

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+very long, very wordy sentences and I would

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+like to develop some kind of tool that they can use to keep track of

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+this and maybe perfect their writing style.

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+Do you think that's something you could do?

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+>> I think so. Let's start by helping me get acquainted with the students

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+in the class. So how many students do we have in this class typically?

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+>> Usually about 45 per unit, but I can have up to six units a semester.

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+>> 45 students, and six sections per

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+semester. That's a farily reasonable size. So,

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+do you know anything about what the students are using as far as computers go?

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+>> I don't know what kind of computers they're using. And they

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+could be, I don't know, anywhere from having no tech experience to

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+being pretty proficient.

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+>> Do you know anything about how

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+familiar the students are with computers in general?

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+>> I'm sure we have some people on the low end that have

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+never done any type of programming, and

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+then some people who are pretty self-sufficient.

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+>> Okay, and I guess my last question related to

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+the students is, what is the students actually submitting to you.

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+>> They've been sending just raw text files via email to me.

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+>> So from the sounds of things

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+we have a fairly broad, I guess base

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+of students to work with, both in technical proficiency

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+as well as their operating system environments potentially.

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+So I think what we'll probably do to start

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+off with is make a command line, Java

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+based tool. That the students can run and we'll

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+give them a fair amount of you know, documentation

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+on how to use the tool. And I expect

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+that there will be a lot of little error conditions that may happen

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+that we want to produce a reasonably friendly message were anything to go wrong.

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+>> Yeah. That'd be great.

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+>> So, a little bit more, I guess about

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+the actual essay itself, its submission, what constitutes a word?

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+>> I really only care about the longer words, so, is there a

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+way that we can only count words that are maybe above three letters?

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+>> I think

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+that's something we can do. And I think

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+that because you seem a little bit unsure

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+we might be able to have that be

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+a little bit more flexible than we otherwise would.

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+>> Great.

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+>> What does a sentence mean to you? Is it kind of flexible?

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+>> I would say anything that ends in a period or

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+even a question mark. Maybe even an exclamation mark. or, something

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+even, maybe even with a comma or semi-colon. I really only

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+care about the sentences that aren't gramatically correct and are too long.

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+>> I think we can probably make that a little bit more flexible too

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+so that way, you can kind of say we're going to, or you want to include them.

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+>> Mm-hm.

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+>> So maybe, sounds like you are little bit on the fence

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+about whether or not say, a comma should be considered a sentence.

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+>> Mm.

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+>> Entirely on its own or not. So we

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+can probably make that a little bit configurable as well.

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+And so, just to confirm the actual end result to

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+the student is the average number of words per sentence?

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+>> Yeah, yeah that'd be fine.

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+>> Okay, overall to start off with, looks like we have some

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+sort of customization of the word length that we want to look for.

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+>> Mm-hm. Yeah.

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+>> We have some kind of variability in

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+what we want to have as acceptable sentence structure.

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+So, periods, question marks, semicolons, things like that. And, the end result

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+to the student is if we're successful, they'll get the average number of

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+words per sentence. Otherwise we tell them something a little bit helpful to

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+kind of put them on the right track to use the tool correctly.

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+>> Yeah that's the error codes right?

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+>> Hopefully not error codes but something a little bit nicer.

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+>> [LAUGH] Okay.

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+>> So I think I have enough to

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+get started and produce something that's you know,

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+a reasonable I guess, rough draft. Of something

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+that you can use to help your class out.

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+>> Great. Thank you.

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+>> Thank you.